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The Origin Of Noah's Ark

Posted by ProKlowner (Investor) at Aug 13 2010, 01:39 PM. 0 comments

There has been some discussion and claims of Noah's Ark lately having been built just 7 thousand years ago. PK disputes this fact.

The Article

PK's answer to the article encase they remove it, you should read the article first though before commenting on PK's answer.. I also added the part at the end that reads (Do your research before jumping to conclusions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark )


PK's Answer (This is not even remotely possible, Noah was building the ark in the year 600, 600 NBC that is No Before Christ, 600 years before there was a time period man came to call B. C., then a day with God is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day with him in heaven, Noah wasn't in heaven he was on the earth, and God directed him to build the ark, so if Noah entered the ark 7 times as told by God that was 7 earth days, not 7 thousand years Noah only lived 900 earth years, God was with man in those days but man was not in heaven they were on earth so no 900 thousand years for Noah to have lived, because God told Noah later that he would not be with man forever and man's years will be a 120 years. Noah's ark landed on a mountain but that was before the land masses separated by way of the Plate Tectonics theory, think about it Noah was to repopulate the earth, how else would all these continent's be inhabited by man, if the whole of the earth was wiped clean by the flood.. The continent's separated after Noah landed the ark. The supercontinent Rodinia is thought to have formed about 1 billion years ago and to have embodied most or all of Earth's continents, and broken up into eight continents around 600 million years ago or some time after the year 600 when Noah had built the ark. No B. C. it seems more likely to have been in the year 600 million years ago, when the ark was built.) PK's Answer

Note: I did not write the article I just added my answer to it today. it has too many errors in it for PK to have wrote it. Duh..

Anyway I am just wondering what other people think about when the ark was built and possibly in what time was it I really would like to here your thoughts about the ark what ever they are, even if it's just a myth.

I have an answer for everything but that doesn't mean I am right. I just have my own answer it could be incorrect. And I know this.. Okay I'll shut up and wait for some reply's. All the best..

Edit: I just realized, I don't do any research myself I just know stuff already like about Plate Tectonics, studied it in school, and I hadn't looked this up but I had already heard the same thing being told by a preacher on the radio months ago. As I hate when they mislead people, today I thought about it and I am fairly certain that in the year 4990 B.C. is close to the time when mosses supposedly wrote the first five biblical texts it was in the day's of Ramsey but long after Noah, although I haven't looked that up either, I usual am not far off.. I read a lot of stuff and find out about things early on..

Sorry I edited my post and made it longer, but felt I had to, I'm no Preacher I don't do that if anything I am a theologists, philosopher, and such I love history whether it's real or mythical. I really am before my time, I shouldn't be but I am and I know too much stuff that is why I over extend but I thrive for accuracy. As Confucius would say "If man stand on head he have crack up", lol..

Gulf Oil Spill

Posted by StEC (Administrator) at Jun 5 2010, 11:41 AM. 8 comments

A month and a half later and the oil is still leaking! This is just ridiculous and in my opinion both BP and the Obama administration are dragging their feet on this WTF!?!? *pullinghairout*

I think the Obama administration needs to take charge and get tough with BP who just seems to be giving the runaround and not taking ownership of this crisis and cleanup and why Obama is dragging his feet on this is beyond me???

Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Feb 14 2010, 11:37 AM. 3 comments

Looks like those screaming fraud behind global warming may not be so wrong after all....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

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Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

In case the link disappears here's the complete article...

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Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

By Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 1:51 PM on 14th February 2010


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* Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing
* There has been no global warming since 1995
* Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes



The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data.

The raw data, collected from hundreds of weather stations around the world and analysed by his unit, has been used for years to bolster efforts by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to press governments to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

Following the leak of the emails, Professor Jones has been accused of ‘scientific fraud’ for allegedly deliberately suppressing information and refusing to share vital data with critics.

Discussing the interview, the BBC’s environmental analyst Roger Harrabin said he had spoken to colleagues of Professor Jones who had told him that his strengths included integrity and doggedness but not record-keeping and office tidying.

Mr Harrabin, who conducted the interview for the BBC’s website, said the professor had been collating tens of thousands of pieces of data from around the world to produce a coherent record of temperature change.

That material has been used to produce the ‘hockey stick graph’ which is relatively flat for centuries before rising steeply in recent decades.

According to Mr Harrabin, colleagues of Professor Jones said ‘his office is piled high with paper, fragments from over the years, tens of thousands of pieces of paper, and they suspect what happened was he took in the raw data to a central database and then let the pieces of paper go because he never realised that 20 years later he would be held to account over them’.

Asked by Mr Harrabin about these issues, Professor Jones admitted the lack of organisation in the system had contributed to his reluctance to share data with critics, which he regretted.

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But he denied he had cheated over the data or unfairly influenced the scientific process, and said he still believed recent temperature rises were predominantly man-made.

Asked about whether he lost track of data, Professor Jones said: ‘There is some truth in that. We do have a trail of where the weather stations have come from but it’s probably not as good as it should be.

‘There’s a continual updating of the dataset. Keeping track of everything is difficult. Some countries will do lots of checking on their data then issue improved data, so it can be very difficult. We have improved but we have to improve more.’

He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not.

He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no ‘statistically significant’ warming, although he argued this was a blip rather than the long-term trend.

And he said that the debate over whether the world could have been even warmer than now during the medieval period, when there is evidence of high temperatures in northern countries, was far from settled.

Sceptics believe there is strong evidence that the world was warmer between about 800 and 1300 AD than now because of evidence of high temperatures in northern countries.

But climate change advocates have dismissed this as false or only applying to the northern part of the world.

Professor Jones departed from this consensus when he said: ‘There is much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia.

‘For it to be global in extent, the MWP would need to be seen clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern hemisphere. There are very few palaeoclimatic records for these latter two regions.

‘Of course, if the MWP was shown to be global in extent and as warm or warmer than today, then obviously the late 20th Century warmth would not be unprecedented. On the other hand, if the MWP was global, but was less warm than today, then the current warmth would be unprecedented.’

Sceptics said this was the first time a senior scientist working with the IPCC had admitted to the possibility that the Medieval Warming Period could have been global, and therefore the world could have been hotter then than now.

Professor Jones criticised those who complained he had not shared his data with them, saying they could always collate their own from publicly available material in the US. And he said the climate had not cooled ‘until recently – and then barely at all. The trend is a warming trend’.

Mr Harrabin told Radio 4’s Today programme that, despite the controversies, there still appeared to be no fundamental flaws in the majority scientific view that climate change was largely man-made.

But Dr Benny Pieser, director of the sceptical Global Warming Policy Foundation, said Professor Jones’s ‘excuses’ for his failure to share data were hollow as he had shared it with colleagues and ‘mates’.

He said that until all the data was released, sceptics could not test it to see if it supported the conclusions claimed by climate change advocates.

He added that the professor’s concessions over medieval warming were ‘significant’ because they were his first public admission that the science was not settled.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

El Nino at play behind cold weather

Posted by Brandon82 (Member) at Jan 9 2010, 12:49 PM. 11 comments

I took geography and some atmospheric courses when I was at university years ago, and one thing that surprises me with the current 'cold snap' the southern US is experiencing is what short memories people have.

In 2003 we had a bitterly cold winter in the south, I was in Tennessee at the time, and while Tennessee isn't deep south and still gets relatively cold in winter, we had like a month of weather where it didn't get above 20 degrees which is atypical and snow was on the ground for over a month nonstop. I remember it well, it was snowfall after snowfall and was very cold.

What do the winter of 2003 and the winter of 2010 have in common? Its coming at the end of an El-Nino Southern Oscillation year - an all but forgotten phenomenon where the Pacific Ocean is hotter than average and holds a great deal of heat, transforming world weather patterns and throwing everything off balance. Its effects tend to be hard to predict, and if it sends a jet stream off course it can plunge very cold weather further south from the arctic even though the entire Pacific Ocean's central basin is overheated.

Here is a photo, courtesy of NOAA, of oceanic temps worldwide right now:

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And here is the difference from the average:

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Average temperatures in the Pacific are anywhere from 3-5C above average as its a typical El Nino season.

There's your partial answer to our interesting weather. This doesn't prove nor disprove global warming, its just information so I'm not looking for another global warming discussion with half-truths and myths of why the earth is cooling - its not - its just some info about the current winter weather in the southern US that is causing them to be so whiney and babyish over semi-frozen temps. ;)

Canadians to pay a additional $3000.00 per year in taxes

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Dec 18 2009, 09:37 PM. One comment

It is being estimated the Copenhagen deal may cost on average each Canadian family an additional $3000.00 each year... The draft agreement, was reportedly pushed by President Barack Obama, the U.K. and Denmark... At least Bush would have had the stones to stand up to the UN's chicanery...

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Copenhagen+grifters+plan+every+Canadian+family/2350810/story.html

What Are Global Warming Supporters Trying to Hide?

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Dec 4 2009, 06:57 PM. 10 comments

According to this Fox News Report it's just not East Anglia who are hiding the real facts on global warming...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/12/04/john-lott-climate-gate-secret-data/

Woman alleged to be involved in human traffiking caught

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Dec 3 2009, 12:04 PM. 0 comments

$4,000 will buy you a slave in Calgary... $4,000 is what a person's life is worth???? This is really disturbing....

I thought slavery in North America ended in 1865 when General Lee & Jefferson Davis surrendered the Confederacy to General Grant and President Lincoln?????

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alberta/2009/12/03/12018806-sun.html

Breaking news - hacker leaks e-mails to expose hoax

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Nov 21 2009, 09:45 AM. 19 comments

The breaking news this morning is a computer hacker has broken into the database of the Climate Research Unit n Norwich, England and downloaded e-mails, many of these e-mails are from Phil Jones, head of the CRU. These e-mails are telling researchers to fudge data and contain remarks that many researchers have private doubts about man made global warming. The CRU have admitted the leak is true and the break in occurred 4 days ago...

http://www.dailytech.com/Climategate+Stunning+Deception+and+Misconduct+at+UK+Warming+Research+Center+Revealed/article16889.htm

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate-how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/
BBC News is now reporting....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm

Ontario may regulate big, flat screen tvs

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Nov 19 2009, 09:59 PM. 11 comments

It appears the Ontario government is considering on setting regulations on new flat panel tvs...

How many of you are going to toss your new LCD or Plasma tv and go back to the old crt "to save the planet"... :huh:

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The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an old cathode-ray tube set, while liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TVs use about 43 per cent more energy than tube sets.




http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/728208--ontario-starting-to-see-the-light-on-flat-screen-tv-standards?bn=1

It's obvious the church of Al Gore is writing their 10 commandments

1) Thou shall not own a suv

2) Thou shall not own a dog or cat

3) Thou shall not own a big, flat screen tv....

The silliness continues....!!!

Framed by a computer virus....

Posted by kenmo (Member) at Nov 8 2009, 10:12 PM. 7 comments

 
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